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but everybody who signed the pledge, including peter king who tried to weasel out of it, shame on him as the new york sun said today, i hope his wife understands that commitments last a little longer than, than, than two years or something. >> and zoraida, there you have grover norquist -- >> weeks. >> -- of course, from the americans for tax reform throwing out some pretty strong political hyperbole. but the fact of the matter is, as you said, fiscal cliff, 35 days away, and as we've heard from a lot of economists, if congress can't fix this, then we're in a lot of trouble. we can be heading back into recession. >> mark preston live in washington, d.c. thank you for that. so even if democrats and republicans get a spending deal done in time to steer clear of the fiscal cliff, derer thompson says it won't necessarily cure the economy. the senior editor of "the atlantic" joins us live in the next half hour. he has an interesting perspective. >>> ambassador susan rice heads to capitol hill this morning to mend fences with three republican senators. john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly
but everybody who signed the pledge, including peter king who tried to weasel out of it, shame on him as the new york sun said today, i hope his wife understands that commitments last a little longer than, than, than two years or something. >> and zoraida, there you have grover norquist -- >> weeks. >> -- of course, from the americans for tax reform throwing out some pretty strong political hyperbole. but the fact of the matter is, as you said, fiscal cliff, 35 days away, and...
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peter king knows -- congressman peter king of new york noknows full well the pledge he signed and others, it's for while you're in congress, not a two-year period. >> it sounded to me he was sort of saying you have to re-up it for it to be legal or whatever the right word is. >> first of all, it's explained to everyone when they sign, it's in writing with them when they sign that it's a commitment while you're in -- while you're in the house or while you're in the senate. you run for a different office, you take it again. and so the congressman from ohio is leaving -- it doesn't pass the laugh test. that's an odd position. if you want to go to your voters and say i promised you this and i'm breaking my promise, you can have that conversation with them. but you don't have an argument with me. you've made a commitment to your voters. >> but it is, to some degree, i know you like to sort of step back and act as if that you don't really have that much to do with the pledge. but the pledge does come from you. i've read a lot. last week when we were talking you sort of said the same thing. we'
peter king knows -- congressman peter king of new york noknows full well the pledge he signed and others, it's for while you're in congress, not a two-year period. >> it sounded to me he was sort of saying you have to re-up it for it to be legal or whatever the right word is. >> first of all, it's explained to everyone when they sign, it's in writing with them when they sign that it's a commitment while you're in -- while you're in the house or while you're in the senate. you run...
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peter king said this two years ago, lindsey graham said this two years ago. chamblis of georgia said this two years ago. they said all these things all during the negotiations where they tried to undermine where john boehner and mitch mcconnell got 2.5 trillion in spending cuts without a dollar than tax increase and those people who are out there trying to offer tax increases undermining the rest of the republican party, undermining taxpayers and not keeping their word to the constituents who elected them. the same people are making comments now. bill: i think a lot of people on the right are not going to argue with you when they see $16 trillion in debt it just blows their minds and they think all the money that goes to washington it's not coming back home. it will only be spent and taken into a deeper hole. we have a new reality now, the wall street journel has an editorial today, it argues, let speaker john boehner debate the tax reform idea as long as he can to mitigate the damage that would come from democrats in the first place. why not allow that? >> w
peter king said this two years ago, lindsey graham said this two years ago. chamblis of georgia said this two years ago. they said all these things all during the negotiations where they tried to undermine where john boehner and mitch mcconnell got 2.5 trillion in spending cuts without a dollar than tax increase and those people who are out there trying to offer tax increases undermining the rest of the republican party, undermining taxpayers and not keeping their word to the constituents who...
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on japan. >> i know. >> it's not just peter king on the taxes. it's a big step, don't you think? >> it's a big step. >> grover. yeah, grover's taking a big hit since the election. there's no doubt about it. i think john, you'd verify this. number of republicans, i've talked to a couple of united states senators who said there's at least 10 to 12 republican senators who are willing to walk away from grover norquist on the tax pledge. >> it's breaking out all over. sanity is contagious. >> now, the question is, is the president going to stay where he is and go, you know what? we're going to do it my way or no other way? we're going to raise it to 90 -- to 39.6%. steve rattner had a great column yesterday. >> it's a must-read. >> you know there's more than one way to skin a cat, more than one way to raise over a trillion dollars in revenues. it doesn't just have to be the president's way. is the white house going to insist on the 39.6% tax rate, or will they consider the loophole part of it plus capital gains, plus a couple of other things? >> well,
on japan. >> i know. >> it's not just peter king on the taxes. it's a big step, don't you think? >> it's a big step. >> grover. yeah, grover's taking a big hit since the election. there's no doubt about it. i think john, you'd verify this. number of republicans, i've talked to a couple of united states senators who said there's at least 10 to 12 republican senators who are willing to walk away from grover norquist on the tax pledge. >> it's breaking out all over....
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host: senators lindsey gramm represented peter king, talking publicly abandoning the pledge of democrats will talk seriously about entitlement reforms. rest in peace, grover norquist? there are not enough republican tax hikes -- republicans to hike taxes for obama. the left is doing its best to make tax hikes appear to be a foregone conclusion. that is their take on tax hikes. eddie, on our line for independents, you are next. caller: i think president obama was elected to make the hard costs. host: what you mean? caller: he was elected to make a choice for the country. the majority of the country. the republicans are wrong and he is right. and i think that he should let us what the fiscal cliff because the republicans are scrambling out trying to change everything. they need to mow them out. and change it then. but i think they should let them go off the cliff. host: are you on medicare and social security? having yes. cliff wranglers way medicare age. can the country afford to continue on this road? paying what we pay for medicare? caller: we can afford it but it is a necessary evil. w
host: senators lindsey gramm represented peter king, talking publicly abandoning the pledge of democrats will talk seriously about entitlement reforms. rest in peace, grover norquist? there are not enough republican tax hikes -- republicans to hike taxes for obama. the left is doing its best to make tax hikes appear to be a foregone conclusion. that is their take on tax hikes. eddie, on our line for independents, you are next. caller: i think president obama was elected to make the hard costs....
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then the chairman of house homeland security committee, peter king. >> the only pledge we should make is avoid becoming greece. republicans should put revenue on the table. >> i think everything should be on the table. i myself am opposed to tax increases. the fact the speaker and majority leader and president will be in another room trying to find the best package. i will not prejudge it. jon: joining us now for a fair and balanced debate the doug thorn former communication is chairman for the democratic national committee and congressman chris van hollen. ron bonjean for. former aide to house speaker dennis hastert. has grover norquist lost his will? >> speaker boehner said revenues would be on the table as well as spending cuts and entitlement reform but we would not raise tax rates. i have seen nothing different than what these senators have said in the last day or so than what speaker boehner has said. the key here is the devil is in the details. once we see some sort of fine print in the next couple weeks, we'll know, you know, we'll know whether our legislators stand. one inter
then the chairman of house homeland security committee, peter king. >> the only pledge we should make is avoid becoming greece. republicans should put revenue on the table. >> i think everything should be on the table. i myself am opposed to tax increases. the fact the speaker and majority leader and president will be in another room trying to find the best package. i will not prejudge it. jon: joining us now for a fair and balanced debate the doug thorn former communication is...
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. >> everybody who signed the pledge including peter king who tried to weasel out of it, shame on him as the new york sun said today. >> new york sun? >> understands that commitments last a little longer than two years or something. >> oh, you're comparing your stupid little pledge to his marriage to his wife. oh, i see. what? all right you're really priceless, grover, grover, grover, grover. ♪ >> yeah, he he's going off the deep end getting personal like that. i'm for getting rid of p.b.s. if it gets rid of grover. >> stephanie: kids, what's fun in one word? soda stream, right? >> yeah. >> stephanie: fun! wow! there was a lot of annoying kids in that commercial. it's a new way to enjoy soda made at home in less than 30 seconds. right? it took a lot longer than that to get to the park off the transit. >> fun? that's what they said at that german zoo. >> stephanie: stop it. [buzzer] >> stephanie: it's the ultimate holiday gift. seriously, everybody loves it, moms dads, kids, teenagers. >> even kids with chicken pox. >> stephanie: kids that climb on rocks. stop with the childhood comm
. >> everybody who signed the pledge including peter king who tried to weasel out of it, shame on him as the new york sun said today. >> new york sun? >> understands that commitments last a little longer than two years or something. >> oh, you're comparing your stupid little pledge to his marriage to his wife. oh, i see. what? all right you're really priceless, grover, grover, grover, grover. ♪ >> yeah, he he's going off the deep end getting personal like that....
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you now have eric cantor, saxby chambliss, peter king, lindsey graham and bob corker all saying to some degree or another that they would be willing to step back from it. certainly encouraging, but as you saw in that piece from a while ago from athena, there is still some distance between both sides as the clock winds down. >> and, dan, folks who came from those meetings with the president last week and they say that he in those meetings spoke very generally about the possibility of reforming these entitlement programs, big programs like medicare, medicaid, that type of thing, is the white house willing to put on the table specifics regarding the kinds of reforms in those big, big entitlement programs? >> if so, this is something that is happening behind closed dooshz, and they're not saying so publically. republicans have been looking at the health care reform law since the election time now, during the campaign to try to roll it back, to have it repealed. many attempts there. they were hoping that if they had won the election, that they could have also repealed it then, and now, of co
you now have eric cantor, saxby chambliss, peter king, lindsey graham and bob corker all saying to some degree or another that they would be willing to step back from it. certainly encouraging, but as you saw in that piece from a while ago from athena, there is still some distance between both sides as the clock winds down. >> and, dan, folks who came from those meetings with the president last week and they say that he in those meetings spoke very generally about the possibility of...
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john mccain and peter king who is a friend on the show . congressman king and i went to college and law school together. he an undergraduate when i am in law school in notre dame . jeff flake also a friend of the show and bob corker. they promised a month ago not to vote to raise taxings under any circumstances. guess what they learned. they learned a lesson to barack obama. give away the people's money and they will vote for you. rather than to shrink the government and lower entitlement and put the government back in the confines of the constitution and let hard working americans to keep their money they will vote to raise taxings. they should remember a very famous pledge made by a very famous and well liked republican. do ow remember this. read my lipps. no new taxes . and when he violated that pledge. the voters threw him out of the white house. >> steve: but at this stage in the negotiations, john boehner made it clear. he will not raise the tax rates. he's looking at other way to raise revenue. we don't need to raise the rates close
john mccain and peter king who is a friend on the show . congressman king and i went to college and law school together. he an undergraduate when i am in law school in notre dame . jeff flake also a friend of the show and bob corker. they promised a month ago not to vote to raise taxings under any circumstances. guess what they learned. they learned a lesson to barack obama. give away the people's money and they will vote for you. rather than to shrink the government and lower entitlement and...